A FUnnie look at the loony residents of the Democratic Underground aka DUmmies in particular and the Leftwing Blogosphere in general.
Tuesday, April 21, 2015
DUmmies Push Back Against Skinner's Clinton Cash Candidate
The DUmmies are pushing back against Skinner's Clinton Cash Candidate. As yet, they are not challenging him directly. Instead they are hitting hard directly on Hillary herself. The conundrum in DUmmieland is how to challenge Skinner's betrayal due to his wife, Shelly Moskwa, receiving HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of dollary of Clinton Cash. DUmmies MannyGoldstein and WillyT are fully aware of Skinner's betrayal and are sort of nibbling around the edges since they are as yet too timid to challenge Skinner directly. However, the drip drip drip of damning documents continue pointing to the the acceptance of money from Hillary front organizations without FULL DISCLOSURE to the DUmmies when he began shilling recently as a Hillary fanboy. In this THREAD, "Hillary's electability is largely political myth at this point," the DUmmies take on Hillary while carefully avoiding Skinner's complicity in the corruption of accepting Clinton Cash without disclosing this to the DUmmies. So let us now watch the DUmmies push back against being absorbed by the Clinton Borg in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, urging honest journalists out there to investigate Mr. Moskwa's corruption starting with FRIENDS OF HILLARY, is in the [brackets]: Hillary's electability is largely political myth at this point
[But Clinton Cash is very real. Just ask Skinner.]
What argument is there for this electability meme other than the fact Secretary Clinton is simply well known? She faced one real national test on the electoral stage, and she failed it. If she couldn't even win a Democratic primary, what evidence do we have that she will fare well against the Republican machine?
[She'll try to checkbook her way to the nomination. Just ask Skinner.]
She's not my candidate. I have no idea who I will vote for in the primary. It is far too early. But this electability thought is almost asserted to be self-evident, both in the media and on DU.
[And endlessly by Skinner. That is what his Clinton Cash funneled to his wife in her role as treasurer of Friends for Hillary bought.]
Based on what, exactly? I see no evidence offered other than very early polls that will change vastly once we're in the thick of things.
[Don't worry. Mr. Moskwa's fanboy shilling for Hillary will continue as long as that Clinton Cash Stash holds out. And now to the other DUmmies whose email addys are being rented out...]
I am trying to see a silver lining in that, but I cannot, as it would mean a) president scott walker and B) The left will get blamed and told "the beatings will continue until morale improves!"
[The silver lining is that Skinner is being exposed.]
That is what 'viable' means now, 'who has the most money'.
[Money Taks, BS Walks and that is why Skinner is talking up Hillary.]
Goldman-Sachs and Wall Street are hedging their bets hoping (paying) for a Clinton v Bush race. win-win for the Oligarchs.
[Also a win-win for the Moskwas.]
Remember last time she ran.
[This time she is taking no chances and is checkbooking her way to the nominations. 49 payments to Skinner's wife in 2008 and much more money in that direction this year.]
Only a rock star like Hillary and Bobby Kennedy* can move to a state where they never lived, say I want to run for the Senate, and win.
[Skinner is certainly star struck right in his wallet.]
I am white.
I am a woman.
I will definitely be turning out.
I will not be casting my vote for Hillary.
[You are NOT Shelly Moskwa.]
I am watching O'Malley who may enter the race and want to know more about him. So far if he isn't just talking, I like where he stands on several issues. The TPP eg, raising SS Benefits. Raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour.
[The downside is that O'Malley hasn't checkbooked his way to Skinner's heart.]
Money rasing is a problem for all of us. Anyone who can raise $2.5 billion is working for some very special interests.
[Skinner is certainly interested in that Clinton Cash. It is how he can maintain payments on his million dollar home.]
For two billion, what are they buying? All Dem candidates should refuse that money and then spend the rest of the campaign season accusing Republicans of taking bribes from the very unpopular Wall St special interests who are buying their elections to work against the Working Class.
[Well, Hillary is buying Skinner's fanboy loyalty.]
You can not discredit her ability to be president with talking points .
[Drinketh from the cup of Skinner's Hillary Kool-Aide.]
I believe Martin O'Malley could emerge as a formidable candidate and do well in the debates. I could see him performing better than Hillary by the time the Iowa caucuses come around in January. The Iowa bounce is real and all will be shocked at how things rearrange if O'Malley takes Iowa and New Hampshire. The vibe will be a repeat of the '08 Democratic Primaries where a little known Illinois senator rolled past Hillary and never looked back.
[The main reason why I want to see the inept former Maryland governor do well against Hillary is to watch how Hillary fanboy Skinner handles it. How does would he justify his continued support for Hillary? As long as Clinton Cash holds out, Skinner can be expected to remain a Hillary fanboy.]
But, alas---It's Hillary's turn. So the party will play nice and let her run without opposition. It's depressing.
[Almost as depressing as finding out that UberDUmmie Skinner betrayed you due to Clinton Cash.]
I am from NY, all of my family is from NY. The general feeling in NY is that she BOUGHT that election
[Did she buy any leaders of wacky leftwing blog forums?]
I don't see any challenger capable of erasing Clinton's popularity among rank and file Democrats, women, minorities, and others. I don't see a Barack Obama out there among the potential challengers. That's why I think that Hillary Clinton will take the nomination going away. Frankly, she doesn't really have any challengers.
[That was DUmmie MineralMan who hasn't yet realized that there is big money in being a Hillary fanboy. He should ask Skinner for the going rates.]
I'm Ready For Oligarchy - Are You? - Vote HRC
[Warning, Skinner, WARNING! Anti-Hillary breakout on this thread. You need to earn your Clinton Cash immediately and put a stop to those resisting being absorbed by the Hillary Borg.]
Skinner Continues Hillary Hype as More Mrs. Skinner Clinton Cash Revealed
Yes, more and more and MORE revelations about Hillary's Cash payoffs to the Kettlemans, I mean the Skinners, are coming out Fast & Furious. The latest revelation comes to us by way of this Open Secrets DOCUMENT which reveals that Mrs. Skinner, aka Shelly Moskwa, received $185, 295 paid out in 49 payments. The period at Open Secrets is listed as 2009 to 2010 but since Hillary is identified as a senator, it is probably from an earlier period. Were those 49 payments over a one year or two year period? Perhaps Mr. Moskwa can reveal it to his fellow DUmmies if he is ever forced into full disclosure as to why he betrayed them. As part of Skinner's betrayal, we have Skinner's HILLARY HYPE today, "Absolutely, Hillary is a progressive... She’s a fierce fighter. No one is more qualified." So let us now watch the DUmmies react to Skinner's purchased Hillary Hype in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that the DUmmies are very slowly starting to grow suspicious of Mr. Moskwa's motivations, is in the [brackets]: "Absolutely, Hillary is a progressive... She’s a fierce fighter. No one is more qualified."
[That is a quote from the former leader of ACORN that Skinner proudly highlights. Of course, in a general election such a quote would be electoral poison but for now let us now look at the increasingly uneasy DUmmies...]
She appears way more a corporatist And a supporter of the military-industrial-surveillance state.
[Also a supporter of Mr. & Mrs. Skinner's financial state.]
Notice how the definition of "progressive" is being co-opted when it pertains to Hillary Clinton? I guess along with DINO we now have PINO (progressive in name only). Not buying it.
[You might not be buying it but you are inadvertently paying for it via your harvested email addy.]
I like Hillary because she gets things done
[Setting up that Friends of Hillary front to funnel payments to Mr. & Mrs. Moskwa was a great way of getting payoffs done.]
Its sickening to watch people fawn over someone who will ignore our needs once they have secured our votes.
[So you are sickened by Skinner?]
Skinner, are you trolling? This seems like flame-bait for the non HRC supporters.
[Skinner wants his fellow DUmmies to get used to the "inevitability" of Hillary. That's what he is paid for. Those Moskwa payments listed before is just the tip of their Clinton Cash payoffs.]
Seriously? In a presidential primary,you're going to view candidate endorsements as "flamebait"?
[I view it as payoff.]
I think everyone knows where Skinner stands, and I feel about him the way I feel about most other HRC supporters here: I respect them. I don't question their liberal credentials, and in many ways I wish I could join them. I take no joy in opposing HRC. I wish I could see the progressive fighter and leader they see.
[I bet you wish you could see the green cash that Mr. & Mrs. Moskwa sees, DUmmie cali.]
This is early in the primaries,there's no reason for Bertha Lewis to endorse Hillary Clinton other than she believes her own words.
[How about Clinton Cash making its way to her as a reason?]
I love the new DU. Skinner is my hero.
[Skinner is my hero. He betrayed me!]
RIP Democratic Party The Corporate Party has taken over. Good luck.
[Check out FEC and Open Secrets documents to see how right you are, DUmmie LOoniX. Be sure to highlight the name, Shelly Moskwa.]
The real liberal political world knows Hillary Clinton and wants to see her win.
[DUmmie MineralMan drinks the Hillary Kool Aide but doesn't know how to cash in on it like the Skinners.]
And I look forward to the list of things she's had a lead role in, fought for, and won for the 99%.
[That was DUmmie MannyGoldstein which is interesting because he, along with DUmmie WillyT, already knows about Skinner's corruption. However he does not yet know how to make the accusation in full out loud. It is like Sefton from "Stalag 17" who knew that Security was the traitor but had to wait for the opportune time to make the accusation.]
Hey DUmmies! Why do you have to be so nasty towards Skinner's Cash Cow, Hillary? I mean have you no sympathy for him and his wife who is Treasurer of Friends of Hillary? Let's face it, a million dollar home in Chevy Chase costs a lot in both mortgage payments and upkeep. So if for some reason Hillary is forced out of the race, goodbye Skinner's money pit. In this specific instance, the DUmmies are mad at Hillary for seeming to support TPP or Trans Pacific Partnership. Since we are talking about Hillary here I like to thing of it as standing for To Pay Plenty. And if you read the previous DUFU EDITION, Hillary paid plenty to Skinner's wife, Shelly Moskwa, in her role as Treasurer of Friends of Hillary. Yeah, no need to scratch your tiny heads in befuddlement as to why Skinner suddenly went all out Hillary fanboy right after her announcement. The source of his enthusiasm can be traced to the Benjamin$$$. It seems silly to gripe about Big Money Hillary and ignore the fact that Hillary's Big Money has purchased your own UberDUmmie to betray you. So with that in mind, the DUmmies sort of miss the point they dare not face in HRC on the TPP: Hedging and essentially a whole lot of nothing. So let us watch the DUmmies grumble about Hillary in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, urging the DUmmies to visit Skinner's million dollar home purchased with hedge fund bucks funneled to him via Friends of Hillary, is in the [brackets]: HRC on the TPP: Hedging and essentially a whole lot of nothing
[You call Mrs. Skinner's big Hillary salary a whole lot of nothing?]
HRC knows what's in the TPP. She was involved in drafting it. And two of the three leaked chapters and other leaked information about content and process, were leaked either while she was still in office or shortly thereafter.
[And you know what's in the FOH, Friends Of Hillary. A whole lot of funneled hedge fund bucks funding the wealthy lifestyles of Mr. & Mrs. Skinner.]
The TPP negotiations were comprised of 20 rounds of negotiations. There are 12 nations in the deal. What does that mean for changes that everyone agrees on? That would be exceedingly difficult if not impossible without extending the process by many months or years, something no one involved is willing to do.
Why must a trade deal strengthen our national security?
I would bet my life that Hillary supports the TPP and will support it. Literally. It's a damn safe bet.
[And I would bet Skinner's wife that Skinner will support whatever Hillary supports regarding TPP. It's a damn safe bet he doesn't want to cut off that cash flow.]
This really is not leading. It's not being a champion for middle class working Americans. It's not courageous and sadly, it's not honest
[No less honest than Skinner going all Hillary fanboy in DUmmieland while failing to mention that his wife is a benefactor of the Clinton Global Money Bucket.]
If you think this post makes me a hater, then I'll wear your labeling me such with reluctant pride. I respect and like a lot of HRC supporters here, but this statement from the campaign is emblematic of why I can't support her. She'll almost certainly be the nominee and I'll vote for her, but that will come from resignation.
[This post makes you a sucker, DUmmie cali. After all that you will STILL vote for Hillary. Skinner is laughing all the way to the bank carrying his Clinton cash. Now on to the other clueless DUmmies...]
Hillary is a champion on economic issues for her corporate donors, gotta give her that.
[Without those corporate donors, no Hillary cash stash for Mr. & Mrs. Skinner.]
With wishy-washy statements like that, hard to imagine Hillary standing up to her banker pals who fund her candidacty.
[Just as it is hard to imagine YOU standing up to Skinner for selling you out. BTW, have you gotten a whole bunch of Hillary emails recently? A certain Friends of Hillary email list is being rented out.]
Why SHOULD the banksters be worried bout Hillary?
[She is bought and paid for...just like her fanboy Skinner.]
Why can't Hillary reveal the TPP? Oh, that's right it's a big secret.
[Why can't Mr. Skinner reveal Mrs. Skinner's employer. Oh, that's right it's a big secret.]
SURPRISE!!! Skinner's Wife Was/Is Friends of Hillary Treasurer
[This is a special DUFU investigative report.] Remember when Skinner recently went all FANBOY over Hillary? Many DUmmies were perplexed about why UberDUmmie Skinner aka David Allen went so over the top enthusiastic for Hillary. Well, what Skinner did not reveal at the time was that his wife, Shelly Moskwa, was (and could still be) the Treasurer of Friends of Hillary. This FEC DOCUMENT reveals that at least as of January 31, 2015, Moskwa was still Treasurer as you can see by the date next to her signature. Also of interest in that same document is that Friends of Hillary had over $24 million in total disbursements. Hmmmm. How much of that went to the Treasurer? Also quite revealing is ANOTHER FEC DOCUMENT which reveals that Friends of Hillary earned quite a chunk of change from renting out its mailing lists. Here is one excerpt: Friends of Hillary asserts that it rented its list to 88 lessees in total and that Ready for Hillary PAC paid the same rate as its other lessees, including non-political entities. Friends of Hillary disclosure reports indicates that it received 18 payments for list rentals between 2013 and 2014, ranging in amount from $260 to $203,683. Friends of Hillary reported these payments as coming from Trilogy, another list brokerage firm, and directly from campaign committees. Skinner has a lot to answer for to his fellow DUmmies. Here are a few questions he needs to answer: 1. Was your wife until at least recently Treasurer of Friends of Hillary? 2. Did you and/or your wife profit in any way from the rental of Friends of Hillary mailing lists? 3. Did you provide DUmmie e-mail addys to Friends of Hillary or your wife? 4. Why did you not disclose, when you were blatantly shilling for Hillary, that your wife was Treasurer of Friends of Hillary? I would also like him to answer if he ever saw William Rivers Pitt sober but we already know the answer to that. In the meantime it appears that Skinner's sudden over the top fanboy cheerleading for Hillary seems to be all about the Benjamins. And on that latter topic, perhaps more later. Hee! Hee!
I originally thought that head DUmmie Skinner sold out for thirty pieces of Hillary war chest silver. However, the posts of Captain Obvious are coming so fast and furious, I suspect he is working via piece rate. The more fawning Hillary threads posted the more plata in his pocket. As examples here is Skinner ADOPTING the dopey Hillary Hospital logo as his own. Then there is Skinner going full CHIPOTLE SOLIDARITY with Hillary. There are many more such threads but just for fun we shall today look at his plug for DUmmie "Hillvetica" text generator on this THREAD. Meanwhile Skinner's shameless plugging for Hillary on a site which until recently almost universally despised her has not gone unnoticed and the DUmmies are becoming quite perturbed at Skinner's sudden fondness for Hillary. We haven't quite reached a state of GötterDUmmerung, Twilight of the DUmmies, but we already see oh so polite QUESTIONING by the perplexed DUmmies which we will get to but first let us join Skinner happily plugging Hillvetica text in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, not really wondering why $kinner could not have waited until the actual start of the primary season to shamelessly plug for Hillary, is in the [brackets]: Just for fun: The automatic DU Hillvetica text generator
[Fanboy Skinner couldn't more obvious than if he were drooling all over Hillary's shoes.]
Most of you probably saw the post about Hillvetica, the new font inspired by the Hillary logo.
[And Hillary herself is so inspiring. Let me count the ways. One piece of silver, two pieces of silver, and so on until we reach the magic 30 pieces of silver.]
I thought it would be fun to use the DU software to let you automatically type in Hillvetica. It's a little clunky to use, but I think that's probably okay because it's not intended for long blocks of text.
[Hey, that Hillvetica can be a lot of fun. Unfortunately not all DUmmies are so enamored of Hillary. Here is DUmmie WillyT oh, so politely questioning Skiinner's motives even though he really knows he sold the DUmmies down the river for Clintonian goodies...]
[...I am about to question your integrity as politely as possible so as not to be Tombstoned.]
I know you get backlogs of epic proportions in ATA.
I imagine that you get personal e-mails up the wahzoo...
And this is your site... it is your site...
[...But why are you already shamelessly shilling for Hillary when the primaries are still 8 months away?]
Yet some of us have been here so long... we may have forgotten that fact.
And you've been normally in the background through most of this site's history.
And we were ok with that... yet when you did comment/recommend...
We were excited. We got approval.
[In case you haven't figured it out, Skinner, this is my VERY roundabout way of accusing you of being a treacherous sellout.]
Sounds juvenile... I realize... yet there it is when you have multiples of thousands of posts on-board..
So when I got a Rec from Skinner, it was kind of nice... kind of special. I'm still human.
This is hard... But I want to ask a question without being zapped.
[Uh-oh. Continue with your roundabout Skinner Betrayal Haiku, DUmmie WillyT...]
And if I'm zapped, zapped I am...
But with the Hillary Clinton roll-out you posted several things, all good articles, yet...
It has been so rare from you... that many here, might have wondered if you were making a statement.
[The statement in case you haven't noticed is: "I SOLD OUT FOR HILLARY!!! LIVE WITH IT DUmmies!"]
Not a statement of support for Hillary, but a statement of the operation of DU, or both...
And although I don't think that's what you were doing, and I do applaud you joining the everyday tussle...
[Oh, no, Skinner. I don't think you sold out for Hillary but actually, that's what I really do think.]
I think it may have shocked some people... because it was so rare to engage.
Please engage again, and let's have the fun of the argument.
[Heh heh. And please don't Tombstone me for casting aspersions upon your integrity but your Hillary sellout scam is over the top obvious. Now on the the rumblings on the way to GötterDUmmerung from the other oh so polite DUmmies...]
I have wondered the same thing. The absence of any other posts is what made me wonder. I have no problem whatsoever with anyone supporting their candidate. But when one of the site owners posts about nothing else, even the horror that is happening with the police killing civilians for no reason, one has to wonder...
[Hear that jingling from a certain pocket? That's your answer.]
I can't understand why Skinner's posts about HRC are of so much importance...maybe I'm missing something but I don't see any attempt to extinguish dissenting voices in having him post his preference for one Dem candidate over another.
[Hey, nothing at all unusual about Skinner posting thread after thread in support of a candidate that until recently was almost universally despised in DUmmieland.]
It is not that Skinner is posting in favor of HC. More power to him. I am very glad to see him post at all. It's the fact, with so very many, majorly important issues of late, that this is the only thing he has posted about. That and the fact that if you don't support HC, you are sure to be berated by someone.
[Here's the reason for Skinner's sudden change in attitude: Ka-CHING!!!]
Skinner can post about whatever he chooses, as we all do.
[Yeah but you won't find it quite so profitable.]
Yeah the site seems way dominated by Clinton cheerleaders to me, too. And the tactics that have been used to maginalize opponents have been discourteous to say the least. And they have been allowed to get away with things listed against the site rules like define people who are not pro-Hillary as Republicans.
As for Skinner's own appearance: sine this web site costs money to run, and the Clinton campaign has loads of cash, I just assumed that is something along the lines of an endorsement that ran on Primary Announcement day on one of THE Democrat enclaves. I don't see why Clinton's staff or Skinner *wouldnt*do that. Even if it wasn't a paid endorsement now, there could be some hope for support of the web site in the future - that just makes sense.
[GASP! A PAID endorsement? How could you even suggest that of our beloved $kinner?]
I Doubt DU Is Getting Major Money From The DLC...
[You are right. It is coming from the HRC.]
It is a nice post, and you are right, a lot of people are wondering. I would too would like to know if Skinner was just doing what everyone else is doing, supporting his candidate, or making a statement. Because if people who do not support Hillary, people who would like to see more candidates, who have Democrats in mind they would like to see in the race, are not welcome here, I think it would be only fair to say so.
[It would also be fair to say that with the DUmmie leadership Money talks, BS walks. So take a HIKE!]
I have no idea what amount of money this site makes for the owners. But I'm going to bet it is worth any aggravation it causes.
[Hillary coinage could aggravate the DUmmies so much it causes a mass exodus.]
i think Skinner is just being a regular DU'er, posting about something he cares about
[$kinner cares so much about Hillary treasure.]
Now we know, Skinner likes Hillary. And Chipotle.
Was Skinner sending a message? Sure. The message was that he supports Hillary Clinton.
[Awk! Awk! PIECES OF EIGHT! PIECES OF EIGHT!]
Does Skinner really support Hillary or is he just "trolling" the anti-Hillary crowd. and I'm using the term "trolling" in the sense he might just be yanking your chain.
[Skinner is sincerely trolling for Hillary. The only chain he is yanking is that gold chain out of Hillary's treasury chest.]
The jury system permits Skinner to engage without being accused of bias.
[He certainly can't be accused of bias against cold cash.]
[The heat on this thread is starting to melt Hillary's gold.]
William Rivers Pitt is unemployed and doing nothing except jotting in the middle of the lily white New Hampshire woods in a cabin purchased by mommy so he can waste away the rest of his life in utter boredom with his family. As the nonproductive member of a family of wealthy lawyers his task is to merely collect trust fund payments and simply exist. And yet Pitt turns the utter nothingness of his sad life into a virtue by staring at his own navel as you can see in his ode to nothingness, A day in the life. So let us now watch Pitt celebrate his empty life in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that DUmmieland is getting interesting again due to a revolt against the Hillary Borg, is in the [brackets]: A day in the life.
[Which is exactly like every other day in your sad boring life.]
For a while now, I've been banging awake around 5am, languishing in that warm you're-comfy-and-you-know-it zone of semi-sleep, before finally grabbing myself by the face and dragging myself out of bed a little before 6. It's nice: I used to be a very solitary animal, an only child, lived alone for years, and despite the no-BS absolute joy and astonishing privilege of baby/wife/job/etc. responsibilities, a part of me will always be the sibling-less kid building universes in his imagination alone in his room, who still worships the stillness of solitude. So I get some of that in my mornings.
[Pitt describes the most challenging task of his day...waking up.]
I do most of my writing during those soft, quiet, precious hours (in my head, because I can't actually write at that hour, because I beat on keyboards like a rented mule when I do write and would wake the entire house). I watch the sun rise, and the snow melt, and the flowers grow, and wither, and disappear under a new season's blanket of white, and listen to the hum of nothing in my ears, and breathe.
[I watch water evaporate, time tick by, and listen to the hum of nothingness between my ears, oh, and breathe.]
My water well is almost 400 feet deep and taps an aquifer. When we moved here, we had the water tested to make sure there was nothing harmful to Lola, and the testers told us they had never, ever come across water as pure and perfect as what comes out of our taps. Before I go to bed each night, I pour a glass and place it on a kitchen windowsill next to a barely-cracked-open window...and then, in the morning, with the first hues of sunrise tickling the mountain, I drink deep of the blood of the Earth cooked and then cooled to perfection by the breath of the wind.
[Great logic there. You get crystal clear water from a well only to leave a glass of it overnight by an open window sill for all sorts of tiny critters to crawl in.]
This morning, I woke, rose, padded quietly to the kitchen, reached for my glass...and paused. There were five huge wild turkeys in my back yard: four females and one male...and oh by God and sonny Jesus, was the male putting on a show. Puffed up like a dirigible, fantail fanning behind, strutting and strutting and strutting, big as life and twice as turkey, The Man, because it's finally mating season, don'tcha know...and the four females could not have disdained him more thoroughly. Dude was out of luck, period, end of file.
[Marjorie Kinnan Rawlings performed this shtick much more effectively at Cross Creek long before you, Will. And she also had an actual LIFE.]
...so I raised my precious water glass to him in salute, drank deeply, and thought to myself, "Yeah, I hated the dating scene, too, brother."
[William Rivers Pitt as a Bukowski's lounge lizard? Since hot women did not hang out there it does NOT compute.]
A day in the life.
[We return Will now to his permanent state of test pattern.]
Attention DUmmie MADem! As the Lord Protector of the DUmmie FUnnies I hereby grant you absolution for all your leftwing sins you may have committed in the past or might commit in the future. Let the word go forth that from now unto all eternity, DUmmie MADem shall be immune from any criticism by the DUmmie FUnnies for providing the public service of completely owning WILLIAM RIVERS PITT in a most humiliating way. So what happened? WILLIAM RIVERS PITT who is now suffering extreme boredom in the lily white woods of New Hampshire attempted to get back into Hillary's good graces by very publicly defending the indefensible, namely her laughable performance at yesterday's brief press conference in which she tried to justify using a homebrew email server (and, no, she won't turn it over). You can see Pitt's Hillary's defense in this THREAD, "I am no fan of Hillary Clinton by any means, but..." ...But you are about to make a complete FOOL out of yourself again. What is really surprising is how quickly Pitt has set himself up for complete HUMILIATION on the heels of being very publicly smacked down for completely FALSE REPORT about TurboTax a month ago. So let us now watch WILLIAM RIVER PITT set himself up for a softball pitch to be smacked out of the ballpark in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that this and future DUFU posts on the Free Republic will be excerpts due to an excess of pearl clutching, is in the [brackets]: I am no fan of Hillary Clinton by any means, but...
[...I will soon be completely smacked down due to my usual hypocritical idiocy.]
I am no fan of Hillary Clinton by any means, but I am even less a fan of the "mainstream" news media...and with this email thing, you just have to love how these laggards have managed to go from "Clinton Scandal!" to "Remember The Other Clinton Scandals!" to, now, "Look, The Media Is Back In Clinton-Scandal Mode!"
["Look, The Pittster Is Back In Pompous-Hypocrite Mode!"]
In essence, they've downshifted so they can report on themselves. Easiest gig in America, and now they get to do it until a year from November. "Wow, look how we do what we do!"
["Wow, look at how Pitt plays the fool again!"]
Maybe a cat asleep in a ray of sunlight is lazier than these frauds, but I doubt it.
[A Pitt asleep on his sofa is about to be OWNED by a fellow DUmmie. Hee! Hee!]
Maybe a cat asleep in a ray of sunlight is lazier than these frauds, but I doubt it.
[You are absolutely right, DUmmie MADem. Please proceed in your Pitt exposure...]
Why yes, you were! You said she "has a sad" and was "disinterested in following the law" (ooops, that was a big fail-wrong) and then you went back into her past in an attempt to smear her with ancient history and "guilt by association" innuendo of the worst sort.
And right here on DU, too:
[Yup! Right THERE in DUmmieland and only a couple of weeks ago. Here is what Pitt said then, contradicting the current Pitt:]
I'm very sorry Hillary Clinton has a sad today.
She voted for the PATRIOT Act.
She voted for the Iraq War Resolution.
She is snuggled up good and tight with organized crime crews like Goldman Sachs that stole our future.
She got the Keystone XL pipeline ball rolling at the State Department.
Personal liberty...unjust war...Wall Street crime...climate change.
Gosh, seems to me those are the signal issues of our time...and every chance she's had to cast a vote or exert influence, she's gone in absolutely the wrong direction.
Now, it seems, she's disinterested in following the law when it comes to governmental data collection. A poster here who claims to have worked at State says it's because she's a Luddite working within a calcified bureaucratic technology, and she's just more comfortable with her Yahoo account, or whatever it is.
If the Bush administration had unspooled that line, this place would have erupted. And rightly so.
So maybe the trick isn't to try to elect the most "electable" Democrat. As Democrats, maybe the trick is to wrestle this party back from the abyss and rediscover a few DNA-level values.
Like protecting personal liberty...and avoiding unjust war...and holding Wall Street to account...and thwarting climate change.
I'm sorry she has a sad today, but my unavoidable conclusion is that Secretary Clinton - based on her black-letter record - does not strike me as the avatar for that change.
Oh, and P.S.: I'm not being divisive. This is the cold, hard truth. Deploy your coping mechanisms as you will. The facts are on the wall. Read them or don't; you're still free, for now.
Let the million flowers bloom.
[And much more than a million brain cells must have died of alcohol poisoning in Pitt's head because the March 10 Will Pitt completely forgot what the March 3 Will Pitt posted. Now back to DUmmie MADem...]
You might take your own advice, there.
[You actually expect Pitt to remember what he posted a short time earlier? This is not meant as a criticism, DUmmie MADem, since you have been granted DUFU absolution in perpetuity for your service in exposing Pitt hypocrisy.]
"it seems" being the important phrase
[That's it, Pitt? Somehow that is supposed to magically wipe away your utter hypocrisy? Why not use "if the" instead of "it seems?" Makes about as much sense.]
Keep swinging, MADem. You're nothing if not persistent.
[Keep drinking, Will Pitt. You're nothing if not intoxicated.]
Naaah. The "important" phrase was "has a sad." It all went downhill from there.
I'm not swinging--I'm hitting the bullseye. I can tell by your reaction.
[Absolutely DUmmie MADem. You hit the bullseye and slamdunked Pitt for all to see.]
IWR. Patriot Act. Keystone. Wall Street. Still waiting.
[Bukowski's. Brew. Still waiting.]
Guilt by insinuation and association, and context-free, as always. Why not give us some of your trademark "argle bargle" while you're at it?
[I understand that a certain Temporary Sockpuppet has stolen Pitt's trademarks. And now we have Pitt flopping around helplessly on the DUmmie deck...]
"Guilt by insinuation and association"
IWR: = "Yes" vote
Patriot Act: "Yes" vote
[Newton Coed: YESSS!]
[ps, ok, aka...]
You are really shameless. It's a strength...and an indelible stain.
...and I forgot my first rule: don't feed the ___________.
[Uh-oh! Calling someone a TROLL in DUmmieland is a tombstoning offense as DUmmie MADem is about to note...]
And she's never talked about those votes, never, ever again, has she! Oh wait--she has. But that doesn't fit your narrative, so you gloss over it.
[Pitt's employment history also doesn't fit his narrative and he glosses over that as well.]
Your remarks are as rigid as someone saying "Can't trust Betsy Warren--she was a REPUBLICAN in 1996!!! She loved Saint Ronnie's approach to markets--never minded his views on AIDS, women, "Welfare Queens," and so forth...!"
See how absurd THAT sounds?
You have the moxie to call me shameless? For pointing out YOUR OWN WORDS, too?
No one is more shameless than you, Will. I'm a rank amateur compared to your prodigious talents on that score.
FWIW, calling me a troll isn't cool, either. I've never been PPR'd and reinstated from this forum--can you say the same? Just because you don't fill in the blank on your little
[Pitt can't tell you the same because he was tombstoned for threatening physical attack on a woman. Poor beloved Bobo the Hobo. Fortunately Pitt's Mama checkbooked his way back into DUmmieland.]
...and I forgot my first rule: don't feed the ___________.
comment, that doesn't mean one can't figure out what you mean. I won't alert, but it wouldn't make me "has a sad" if someone else did--it would serve you right.
[This was followed the next morning by a DUmmie jury voting to allow Pitt to remain. Reason was probably to continue allowing the laughs to roll.]
Admit it. You contributed to this spectacle. And continue to do so with the petulant repetition. Fucking rich.
[Another DUmmie slams Pitt.]
By posting two threads in GD of DU.
Yeah, it was me.
[More specifically Pitt, for posting two completely CONTRADICTORY threads in the space of a week.]
[You got that right, DUmmie joshcryer. DUmmie MADem completely OWNED Pitt. And thanks again for highlighting this comedy GOLD.]
While you wait 24 business hours for Karl Rove to be indicted and frogwalked across the White House lawn, WILLIAM RIVERS PITT has another HOT HOT HOT scoop. This time it is that TurboTax was hacked. Of course we know this must be true because of Pitt's fantastic track record for veracity. Unfortunately, after Pitt delivered his big SCOOP came the big "OOPS" which you can discern in the thread title which not only has a regular UPDATE but also a NEWER UPDATE, "Scary stuff" UPDATE: the hack was TurboTax (NEWER UPDATE). After Pitt's FALSE "scoop" caused panic among TurboTax customers, that company was forced to dispatch a spokesperson to Pitt's false scoop thread to correct the Trust Fund Kid with the FACTS. Bottom line: TurboTax was NOT hacked. So let us now watch WILLIAM RIVERS PITT once again spread misinformation via a "scoop" in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, thinking that TurboTax has a strong legal case now against the Pittster for spreading misinformation, is in the tax [brackets]:
"Scary stuff" UPDATE: the hack was TurboTax (NEWER UPDATE)
[Substitute "OOPS" for each "UPDATE" in the title.] First dribble of info is coming from Utah:
[Is Jason Leopold your reporter on the scene?] Utah Tax Commission flags thousands of potential fake returns Snip: Commission spokesman Charlie Roberts said it found that personal information has been stolen from previous returns filed through TurboTax. He said the commission is not yet sure if other programs and companies were affected, nor if the data was stolen from the cloud or some other means.
[Which is not the same thing as TurboTax being hacked. OOPS!] ...but my source tells me as many as 15 other states could have been affected, and that whoever pulled this hack likely got the run of all of TurboTax's information. That might even mean Quickbooks, but I don't know.
[Key phrase: "I don't know." Oh, and who is your source? Jason Leopold? Last I heard he is the U.S. correspondent for a New Zealand college radio station operating out of the student union building in Auckland. I kid you not!!!]
Millions of people have been using TurboTax for years. I used it for years. It's a treasure trove of incredibly detailed tax and financial information...now in the wind.
[Does it have an app for deducting Bukowski's brew expenses from your trust fund income?] It's a bad one, in my opinion.
[Except, as we shall find out, it is NOT true.] Update: All the hackers have done so far is use 2013 return information to file bogus 2014 returns, and direct the money to prepaid debit cards. It seems as though they are targeting taxpayers who are getting big refunds, and ignoring the smaller returns. They do, theoretically, have access to a vast pile of identity information, but whether or not they will do anything with that remains to be seen.
[Substitute "OOPS!" for "Update."] NEW Update: The Salt Lake Tribune re-re-edited their article to extract the name "TurboTax" from the "TurboTax was hacked" article. Given the fact that little ol' me got love from an Intuit PR flack, I think some muscles are being flexed.
[Substitute "OOPS Again!" for "NEW Update." This NEW Update comes after the TurboTax spokesperson we shall see below entered DUmmieland to correct the misinformation spread by WILLIAM RIVERS PITT.] For the record, the paragraph in the Trib read: "Commission spokesman Charlie Roberts said it found that personal information has been stolen from previous returns filed through TurboTax. He said the commission is not yet sure if other programs and companies were affected, nor if the data was stolen from the cloud or some other means."
[For the record, you have once again provided DUFU comedy gold by acting true to form as a complete idiot.] ...and there's this:
[...and there's this. Having been caught yet again posting a completely FALSE scoop, WILLIAM RIVERS PITT tries to wiggle out of it again. Now to his fellow DUmmies and, eventually, to the TurboTax spokesperson correcting the idiot.....] My mother received a fake IRS call yesterday... Saying she's being sued by the IRS and she can pay over the phone by debit card. She knew it was fake and reported it buy it sounded professional, automated message.
[Pitt better hope his mother doesn't receive that fake IRS call or he could lose his New Hampshire cabin in the woods.] Between Target, Home Despot, Turbo Tax, and the hundreds of other hacks and such, I'd be willing to be that all of our data is out there. What is to ultimately done with it is still up in the air. I'm expecting one BIG hack one day, where everyone's info just vanishes.
[Well, Pitt's Anthem Obamacare got hacked as PREDICTED. So far the hackers only snagged 25 bucks but that was only test run before digging deep into his trust funds.] Faithful TurboTax user.. wonder if my information has been leaked? My credit was already terrible before the hack, and I don't know how much they can make it worse....
[The good news is that Pitt's "scoop" was false so your TurboTax info is safe. The bad news is the hackers probably stole the info you stupidly handed over to ObamaCare. Ask Pitt about the Anthem hack.] . I used the same identity theft protection plan for a while. Got my credit score down so low that it was useless to thieves.
[Smart move. Did you also cut out your brain in order to collect disability?] Meanwhile the ACA websites are all properly secured, it is private corporations that refuse to pay for
proper security. That should be clear enough by now.
[You think the ObamaCare sites are secure? Keep concentrating on that thought while we pick your pockets.] . Okay, I thought you were being hyperbolic earlier.
[Actually Pitt was INCORRECT earlier as well as now.] Dems have tried for years to set up the tax system so that the IRS does your taxes and just sends you a form to sign (for the VAST majority of tax payers who have relatively simple returns). TurboTax has lobbied to prevent this for over a decade. Would save the IRS and the consumers billions and certainly would have been more secure than a this system where people trust third parties with very sensitive data.
[A DUmmie equally as DUmb as Pitt willing to place his financial cojones in the hands of Lois Lerner.] just changed my password just in case
[From "JASONLEOPOLD" TO "WILLPITT".] The story is starting to bubble up. DailyKos has it.
[Will Pitt now all excited that the story for which he will soon be smacked down for has gone viral.] A search for TurboTax on this site produces "no results."
[Uh-oh. The terrible truth is about to break.] UPDATE: All the hackers have done so far is use 2013 return information to file bogus 2014 returns, and direct the money to prepaid debit cards. It seems as though they are targeting taxpayers who are getting big refunds, and ignoring the smaller returns. They do, theoretically, have access to a vast pile of identity information, but whether or not they will do anything with that remains to be seen.
[The first of Pitt's updates with a big smackdown update about to follow NOW... ] TurboTax has not been hacked
[Position your face here, Pitt, for the big SMACKDOWN...] Hi Folks,
Christine from TurboTax here. I want to assure you that TurboTax has not been hacked. We continuously monitor our systems in search of suspicious activity. And through that process, we have found no evidence of a data breach. In addition, we asked a third-party security firm – FireEye/Mandiant – to do an independent assessment. All evidence indicates that those initiating these attacks obtained information outside the tax filing process.
[IOW, WILLIAM RIVERS PITT is once again full of it. Please continue, Christine...] During this tax season, we have seen a significant increase in attempts by criminals to use stolen identity information such as names and social security numbers obtained from other sources outside the tax preparation process to file fraudulent state tax returns. This illegal activity originates outside the tax preparation process and uses TurboTax as the vehicle to commit this crime.
[IOW, unline the false scoop perpetrated by WILLIAM RIVERS PITT, there is NO EVIDENCE that TurboTax has been hacked. Please continue Christine...] We will have more information coming on this issue, but I wanted to assure you that our customer's data is safe.
[Unlike Pitt's veracity which is perpetually UNSAFE.]
If you've been a victim of identity theft, we've established a dedicated 800 number where customers impacted by tax fraud can obtain further information with serially trained identity protection agents.
[Do you have a dedicated 800 where WILLIAM RIVERS PITT can call for further information on how too correct his terminal gullibility?]
[Thank you, Christine, for the real facts of the case that you were forced to post in the DUmmieland Swamp due to the complete MISINFORMATION posted by one WILLIAM RIVERS PITT who can be located in New Hampshire in case the TurboTax legal department wants to have a little chat with him.] So...the Salt Lake Trib had it wrong? My guy in the biz whose whole management team is cloistered with Intuit reps is wrong? Explain, please. 8,000 fraudulent returns in one state alone.
[Actually, YOU had it wrong, Pitt. Who is your guy in the biz? Jason Leopold taking a break from his New Zealand college radio correspondent gig?] I find only 2 stories on the news, neither say TT was hacked.
[DUmmie uppityperson casting aspersions upon Pitt's non-existent veracity.] My question is.........how is it that less than 3 hours after your OP on this matter, TuboTax is dead-on-the-case and knows about YOUR post here at DU and begins damage-control operations.
[Because WILLIAM RIVERS PITT is a complete idiot whose FALSE posting has gone viral and frightened TurboTax customers. Hopefully the TurboTax legal department will be looking into this matter. Perhaps someone's trust fund account will soon be FROZEN?] It doesn't sound like they were breached though. It sounds like identity thieves use their product to file fraudulent returns. There is a difference.
[An important distinction that went completely over Pitt's head.] I'm a likeable guy. People seek me out.
[Actually Pitt, the people in the TurboTax legal department are seeking you out.] ... who doesn't grasp the simple concept of Secondary Sources. You might want to bone up on "retraction" as well.
[Break out the popcorn. Fasten your seatbelts. The entertaining DUmmie angry reaction to Pitt is about to begin!] The Salt Lake Trib and ABC News out of Minneapolis...for starters. That's two sources, plus my source.
[You misread the first two sources, Pitt, and does Jason Leopold on a break from his New Zealand college radio correspondent gig still count as a source post-Fitzmas?] I'm guessing your other "sources" relied on your "guy" as well. Maybe you were their source. Whatevs. That's not second-sourcing, that's cluster****ing.
[Note to the pearlclutchers: FOUR asterisks were used to prevent an adult audience from viewing the word that they already know was written.] BTW, per your update at least the Trib has edited their story. You're doubling down. Weird, this new "journalism".
[Don't worry. Pitt's original report will be proven correct in just 24 business hours.] Still waiting on my Rove indictment here. It's not a sin to be wrong, or for a source to have been wrong, nor for the real story to become more complicated as time goes on. It's early yet.
[Pitt's story will be verified on May 12, 2006 or in 24 business hours, whichever comes last.] What a load of horsesh*t, thank you for signing up just so you could lie to us. Whoever you really are.
[A Pitt true believer defends the veracity of his flawed idol over a TurboTax rep.] Nice scoop Will.
[Yup. As good as his Karl Rove Indictment scoop.] Recommendation to you Will, since the article has now been edited and a person from TT has posted
though of course anyone could say they were that, it might behoove you to edit your OP since it appears you may be spreading false rumor of TT being hacked.
[GASP! Will spreading a false rumor? Whoda thunk it?] I think you may have jumped the gun here, Will. Being first to isn't always best.
[Patience. 24 business hours from now you will see Will was correct.] It was there three hours ago.
[Pitt now sputtering that his false story might have been correct 3 hours ago.] NEW UPDATE: The Salt Lake Tribune re-re-edited their article to extract the name "TurboTax" from the "TurboTax was hacked" article. Given the fact that little ol' me got love from an Intuit PR flack right here on DU, I think it's safe to say some muscles are being flexed.
For the record, the paragraph in the Trib read: "Commission spokesman Charlie Roberts said it found that personal information has been stolen from previous returns filed through TurboTax. He said the commission is not yet sure if other programs and companies were affected, nor if the data was stolen from the cloud or some other means." Stay tuned.
[Little ol' PItt is going to get a lot of "love" from the TurboTax legal department for spreading FALSE rumors.] Yet none of the articles except for the original updated/corrected ones say "TT hacked".
[Careful DUmmie uppityperson or Pitt will untoady you.] This OP is pure speculation on a couple cases of tax fraud in a few states. Those committing the fraud used TurboTax to SUBMIT the tax data, but they had the identity info before hand. A simple google search of "turbo tax hack" nets you this OP, a similar blog at Crooks and Liars (using the same original source before it was updated to omit TurboTax), and a bunch of tax fraud articles from years past. Someone jumped the gun on this one.
[Yeah, a certain someone named WILLIAM RIVERS PITT.] Pitt irresponsibly is insisting they were with zero proof. And, oh, hey, Karl Rove was totally indicted!!!
[And DUmmie PeaceNikki WINS a Kewpie Doll for having a brief moment of mental clarity about the fraud that is WILLIAM RIVERS PITT.] I'd not have posted this, even if I had some information from reliable sources. It's too explosive a story and incorrect postings could do some real harm.
[Something which never penetrated Pitt's gullible brain.] Wellnow...
[Sputtered Pitt and DUmmie snooper2 smacked him down with this...] Yeah, well now, are you going to change the title of your OP telling lies? Have you learned that fraud does not equal hacking yet?
[Those distinctions are too tough for Pitt to comprehend.]
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